The Summer rush is over and what a busy Summer it was.
Back to back conventions of
HISTORICON and World
Boardgame Championship put us on a first name basis with the hotel
staff of the Lancaster Host. But no rest for the weary, as Jeff, Debbie,
Julia, Becky, and Brian and their families, as they moved houses and upgraded
our production hardware. Somewhere along the way the decision was made to
split our partnership with Jim Day's StrikeNet. We wish him well.
This issue of Cher Ami is a good one. We have recap of the Brawling
Battleships Steel™ Championship. Battlegroup's™ recap will appear in next
month's issue.
To promote our expansion of Battlelines™
Kursk, the first in a new series of Formation Focus Articles. This one is
on Panzer Grenadier-Division Grossdeutschland, arguably the most elite division
in the German army!
If you haven't been to Cold War Stories
in a while, there have been a number of postings, including a submission by Don
Slack, FTMC (retired) who was onboard USS Oklahoma City at tht time and
contratdicts the events described in the original
story.
And we are introducing, The Armor Pages. Fact filled
anecdotal articles of our favorite tanks. With pictures, most of which we
took at the US Army Ordnance Museum in Aberdeen Maryland. Enjoy!
Phil Gardocki
Cher Ami Newsletter Editor
2007 Brawling Battleships Steel™
Championship
Brawling Battleships Steel™
championship games are always full of strange
and zany moments. This year was no exception. For the first time in tournament
play we saw the legendary curse of Mata Hari strike a player. Patrick Mirk – a
veteran WBC player – was the victim. In an almost impossible play Andrew
Chitwood pulled three event cards, both Mata Hari cards (a spy card that lets
you draw two cards from an opponent’s hand) and the Radio Intercept card that
lets you draw two cards from the discard pile. Andrew Chitwood the youngest
player ever to make the finals in Brawling Battleships Steel decided to steal
two of Pat Mirk’s cards, who was setting immediately to his left, normally the
play is better against players to the right, but since he needed a ride home he
decided not to play Mata Hari on his step father Stephen Sheddin, who had also
qualified for the finals in a separate round.
Everyone at the table was surprised though when Andrew C.
played the second Mata
Hari on Pat reducing him to two cards. When Andrew C. played the Radio
Intercept card and picked up both Mata Hari cards from the discard pile
everyone at the table immediately encouraged him to play the third spy on Pat
to let him have the distinct honor of being the sole recipient of Mata Hari’s
curse. For his trouble Pat received a nice prize to commemorate the notoriety.
No real damage was done since Pat refilled his hand at the end of his turn,
which followed immediately after Andrew Chitwood fortuitous opening.
After that good natured start the gloves came off and all the fun and frolic
that existed in the qualifying rounds evaporated from the table as every one of
the players competed for wood. In the first hand Stephen Sheddin kept setting
up dreadnoughts for other players to sink. Frank Mestre played a defensive
waiting game but only managed to nab 3 points and Stephen Sheddin was shut out
after providing a generous supply of damaged battleships for his opponents. At
the end of the first round the score was Steve Raszewski 19, Andrew Fedin 11,
Pat Mirk 5, Andrew Chitwood 4, Frank Mestre 3 and Stephen Sheddin 0.
Steve Raszewski quickly realized he was the main target for the second
hand and did his best to play defensively but against a determined series of
attacks his fleet was wiped out. Andrew Fedin assumed the duty of damaging
ships that other would sink. Stephen Sheddin quietly sank the majority of the
dreadnoughts with Andrew Chitwood, Frank Mestre and Pat Mirk finishing off the
kills. At the end of the second round the score was Stephen Shedden 26, Steve
Raswewski 19, Frank Mestre 19, Pat Mirk 16, Andrew Chitwood 11 and Andrew Fedin
11. Stephen Shedden was playing the game with sure understanding of the
mechanics. He had quietly moved into the lead.
In the third hand Andrew Chitwood really stepped up play and
was sinking ships at an astounding rate, before his demise he had scored over
40 points in destroyed battleships. His suddenly high visibility drew attention
away from Stephen Shedden and a flurry of attacks sank all his ships reducing
his score to 0 and knocking him out of the round. Stephen Shedden continued a
spirited defense as Steven Raszewski, Frank Mestre and Pat Mirk tried to knock
him out of the lead. Stephen Shedden knew he had fallen behind Steven Raszewski
and timed his moment perfectly on his last turn launching a destroyer attack
that sank a 7 point dreadnought but missed the second battleship. In the end
the final score was Steven Raszewski 35, Stephen Shedden 33, Frank Mestre 28,
Pat Mirk 24, Andrew Chitwood 11 and Andrew Fedin 11.
Panzer Grenadier-Division Grossdeutschland
By Phil Gardocki
"The Bodyguard for the German People" was formed in late 1939,
from the ceremonial unit, the Watch Regiment Berlin, the Motor Regiment
Grossdeutschland started its life as a unique unit, and maintained that status
for the entirety of its history.
Organizational History 1940
The name Grossdeutschland means "Greater Germany."
Contrary to the Wherkreiss system, men
assigned to this unit were from all over Germany. This was a high prestige
placement as Grossdeutschland provided the personal body guards for Hitler.
Also, almost everyone transferring from Grossdeutschland to the regular army
received an immediate promotion. It was considered by the High Command to be an
elite unit before it ever saw combat. May, 1940, Grossdeutschland rode to war
with the following organization:
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4,788 Men
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6 Sturmgeschutz IIIb’s
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6 7.5cm le.I.G. 18's
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4 15cm s.I.G.’s
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12 3.7cm PaK 35's
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18 8.1cm Mortars
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27 5cm Mortars
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178 Machineguns
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177 Trucks
It was standard practice for independent regiments to have their own personal
artillery battalion. This artillery battalion was a little light with only
7.5cm guns, but this was offset by 4 15cm infantry guns and a private company
of Sturmgeschutz.
For the campaigns of 1941,Grossdeutschland was
reinforced with a battery of 15cm field howitzers, two batteries of 10.5cm
light field howitzers, and an abundance of anti-tank guns - 48 in all; 12
PaK-38 and 36 PaK-35 guns. This was heavily over gunned when you consider that
the standard infantry division of the time had only 24 guns - mostly smaller
PaK 35’s.
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7,350 Men
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7 Sturmgeschutz IIIc’s
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4 15cm F. H. 18's
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2 15cm s.I.G.’s
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4 7.5cm le.I.G. 18's
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12 3.7cm Flak 36's
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8 10.5cm le.F.H.18's
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18 8.1cm Mortars
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39 5cm Mortars
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12 5cm PaK 38's
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36 3.7cm PaK 35's
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4 Armored Cars
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244 Machineguns
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250 Trucks
A new regiment, named Fusilier Regiment Grossdeutschland, was
formed in Germany, and in April, 1942 and was dispatched to Orel to join the
now renamed Grenadier Regiment Grossdeutschland. The combined regiments formed
the Grossdeutschland Motorized Division. The Fusilier Regiment
Grossdeutschland, had no combat experience, and there was much friction between
the two formations. Although two regiments of motorized infantry was typical
for motorized rifle divisions, what was not standard was the addition of a
panzer battalion, an 8.8cm antiaircraft battalion, 96 antitank guns, 24 15cm
guns, and a flame throwing company of Panzer III’s.
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18,597 Men
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10 Marder III's
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14 Flammpanzer III's
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21 Sturmgeschutz IIIe’s
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28 Panzer III's
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6 15cm Nebelwerfer 41's
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12 10.5cm le.F.H.18's
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4 10cm K18’s
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20 15cm F. H. 18/40's
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4 15cm s.I.G.’s
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21 8.8cm Flak 36's
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24 5cm PaK39's
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24 7.5cm PaK 40's
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48 3.7cm Flak 36's
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75 5cm Mortars
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84 8.1cm Mortars
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635 Machineguns
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2 Cars
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24 Armored Cars, Sd. Kfz. 231's
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24 Half-tracks
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800 Trucks
After the third battle of Kharkov, Grossdeutschland was pulled out and
refitted. That refit included the addition of a 3 Battalion Panzer Regiment,
including a Panther battalion and a Tiger company. On paper the full
strength would come to 250 tanks and assault guns, but this fictional strength
never saw action. Another departure from standard organization was the full
battalion of the Grenadiers that was upgraded with halftracks. Most panzer
divisions had only a single company equipped in armored carriers, the rest of
the force was truck borne. With the addition of the armor the division was
renamed Panzergrenadier Division Grossdeutschland, with the regiments being
renamed Panzergrenadier Regiment Grossdeutschland and Panzerfusilier Regiment
Grossdeutschland. Operation Citadel saw an elite, well equipped division
fielded.
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20,468 Men
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13 Tigers
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48 Panzer IV’s
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46 Panthers
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14 Flammpanzer III's
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30 Sturmgeschutz IIIf’s
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30 Nashorns
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8 10.5cm le.F.H.18's
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9 3.7cm Flak 37's
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16 15cm F. H. 18/40's
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18 Wespes
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21 8.8cm Flak 36's
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24 5cm PaK38's
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72 3.7cm Flak 36's
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75 5cm Mortars
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84 8.1cm Mortars
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713 Machineguns
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2 Cars
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800 Trucks
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192 Half-tracks
Much has been said about the Panthers disappointing debut.
Despite two rebuilds of each tank, they still presented many problems. The fuel
pump leaked, which caused several to catch on fire while unloading in the rail
yards. The engine linkages were not up to snuff with such a heavy machine. But
not all problems were mechanical. And, as noted by Guderian, "The tactical
employment of a new type of Panzer does not release the commander from using
the proven principles of Panzer tactics…" and "It is false to pull out
other heavy weapons where Panthers were employed, only because Panthers are
there. It is correct to create a Schwerpunkt, (Spearpoint) concentrating the
other weapons, Artillery, Engineers, Air force and Panzer Grenadiers."
By the 2nd day of Operation Citadel, Grossdeutschland only had 40 operational
Panthers. This after absorbing the 10th Panzer Brigade's 2 Panther Battalions,
which had 100 Panthers each! By July 10th, only 10 Panthers were operational.
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19,112 Men
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96 Panzer IV’s
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96 Panthers
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44 Tigers
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4 Panzer III's
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30 Sturmgeschutz IV’s
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32 Hetzers
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6 Whirlwinds
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75 Sd. Kfz. 222's
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6 15cm Hummels
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9 5cm Mortars
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9 15cm F. H. 18/40's
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12 10cm Wespes
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12 16 cm Nebelwerfer 42's
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12 8.1cm Mortars
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15 10.5cm le.F.H.18's
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20 12 and 8.1cm Mortars
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21 8.8cm Flak 36's
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24 5cm PaK39's
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72 3.7cm Flak 36's
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835 Machineguns
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1 Car
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48 Sd. Kfz. 231 and Sd.Kfz 10 half-tracks
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600 Trucks
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312 Half-tracks
Later in the year, the division had its Tiger tank company
upgraded to a battalion. In January 1944, Grossdeutschland’s Panther Battalion
transferred west for training, but this battalion was replaced with the 26th
Panzer Battalion, so there was no real change in the TOE. Also, in May, the
PanzerFusilier Regiment Grossdeutschland had one of it’s Battalions upgraded
with halftracks, but the number of companies in each battalion was reduced from
5 to 4.
Operational History
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In September, 1939, Grossdeutschland was assigned to be airlifted into Poland,
but this was canceled due to the speed of the campaign. So, Grossdeutschland’s
first campaign was in France, 1940. Assigned to Guderian’s XIX Panzer Corps,
Grossdeutschland led the attacks over the Meuse River, the encirclement of
Dunkirk, the deep drive south, before ending the campaign in Lyon. The unit
sustained almost 30% casualties in this campaign.
In 1941, even though assigned to Army Group Center’s
Panzer Group 2 , Grossdeutschland was sent into Yugoslavia, where it
took Belgrade. Reassigned back north, Grossdeutschland, participated in the
Battles of Minsk, Yelnay, Kiev, and Moscow. Between battles and weather, by
early 1942, 2 of its 4 battalions were dissolved to reinforce other units.
Assigned to Army Group South, and expanded to a motorized
division, Grossdeutschland was assigned to the 48th Panzer Corps, and
participated in the Drive on Stalingrad and Voronezh. In September,
1942, Grossdeutschland was shipped to Army Group Center and deployed
in the Rzhev sailient near Moscow. When the Soviet's
launched Operation Mars, the Grossdeutschland faced
the 22nd Army and the 3rd Mechanized Corps, both elements of the
Kalinin Front. After Mars, Grossdeutschland was shipped south and rebuilt
for the summer offensives.
Grossdeutschland was upgraded to a Panzer Grenadier division,
and still deployed to the 48th Panzer Corps, which was assigned to the 4th
Panzer Army to participate in the reduction of the Kursk Salient, as part of
Operation Citadel. On July 5th, 0500, after many delays, Operation Citadel was
launched. Grossdeutschland, assigned it's Fusilier Regiment to support the
10th Panzer Brigade to its left while the 11th Panzer
Division operated on its right. The Tigers of Grossdeutschland lead the
attack into the southern part of the Kursk Salient. The breech was affected,
and by 0900, Grossdeutschland was on the outskirts of Cherkasskoyle, which was
defended by the 67th Guards Rifle Division – a
typical Guards Rifle Formation, reinforced by two anti-tank regiments of the
6th Guards Army. The Soviet defenses held most of the day, but the position was
finally outflanked by Grossdeutschland, and once a penetration was
achieved Grossdeutschland was reinforced by elements from the 11th Panzer
Division, causing the 67th Guards Rifle Division to withdraw or be cut off and
destroyed, Cherkasskoyle fell to the Germans late that the day.
On the July 6th, storms and flooded conditions slowed
Grossdeutschland. During the night Panthers from the 10th Panzer Brigade
reinforced Grossdeutschland. The Soviet 2nd line of defense was strongly held
and fighting was at times hand to hand against entrenched tanks, and antitank
guns. By July 7th, the 6th Guards Army was in retreat, and Grossdeutschland, in
conjunction with the 3rd and 11th Panzer divisions, was attacking the Soviet
3rd Mechanized and 31st Tank Corps, both elements of the 1st Guards Tank Army.
The objective for the Germans was the town of Syrtsevo. On July 8th, the
Soviets launched a counterattack with the 40th Army and elements of the 3rd
Mechanized Corps, which failed. The remains of the Soviet forces fled back to
Syrtsevo pursued by Grossdeutschland and the town quickly fell.
Grossdeutschland attempted to take the crossings of the river Pena by
exploitation and the Soviets sent in 40 T-34’s and M-3’s to stop them delaying
the Germans for 3 hours.
July 9th saw more fighting, with the 4th Panzer Army pushing
back the 6th Guards, and 1st Guards Tank Army. Grossdeutschland was down to 100
operational tanks and assault guns. It continued fighting on July 10th managed
to push back Soviets. By the end of the day Grossdeutschland captured the Pena
Bridge, along with a critical high ground surrounding it. This was the high
water mark for the 48th Panzer Corps and Grossdeutschland in Operation Citadel
only engaging in minor holding actions until the general withdrawal order came
down on July 18th.
After Citadel was cancelled, Grossdeutschland was temporarily
assigned to Army Group Center and fought a number of defensive battles against
the Soviet operations Kutuzov and Rumantsyev. By August, Grossdeutschland was
back with the 48th Panzer Corps where it remained for the rest of 1943. The
year ended with a long series of retreats toward Belgorod, and then the Dnieper
River where it became known as "The Fire Brigade."
January 1944 brought no respite for Grossdeutschland as it
continued a series of defensive battles in the Ukraine. Reassigned to the 57th
Panzer Corps, Grossdeutschland retreated into Romania, attempting to defend the
Polesti oil fields. Because of the destruction of Army Group Center,
Grossdeutschland was pulled out of the line and railed to East Prussia where it
fought in the Baltic States. Organizationally Grossdeutschland was paired with
the Brandenburg Division, into Panzerkorps Grossdeutschland.
In 1945, Panzerkorps Grossdeutschland was trapped in Memel and
largely destroyed. About 4,000 men of Panzer Grenadier Division
Grossdeutschland escaped by ferry, and found their way west, and surrendered
the colors of Grossdeutschland to the British in Schleswig-Holstein.
At what price honor? The official motto of Grossdeutschland was
"Our honor is the fulfillment of our duty." For the five years Grossdeutschland
was in combat in the most difficult campaigns that Germany fought. Its soldiers
accrued more awards than any other unit, and sustained over 50,000 dead doing
it.
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Battle off Dong Hoi, Part II
BATTLE OFF DONG HOI, ANOTHER EXPLANATION
By Don Slack FTMC (SW) Retired
Here is my "Sea Story" of what I remember about April 19th 1972,
"The Battle of Dong Hoi." I didn’t even know it was called
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that until recently. I stumbled upon this link
http://home.att.net/~iris.gardner/subic.html,
which has some really good information and pictures of the USS Higbee
aftermath. This is the first time since the event that I have actually read
anything pertaining to this incident. I heard rumors that the Naval Academy had
a version that put the USS Oklahoma City completely out of the area. This would
not be the first time history was rewritten to blame the innocent and reward
the guilty.
I was only an (E4) 3rd Class Missile Fire Control Technician on
the Oklahoma City at the time and assigned to stand four-hour watches in the
Combat Information Center (CIC). My main job was maintaining the analog MK111
Fire Control Computer. Yes analog – it was about the size of 12 double wide
refrigerators. We called it the "coffee grinder" because of all the noise the
gears and servos made when it was calculating a fire control solution. Anyway,
back to my "Sea Story". I was assigned a watch in CIC that normally a zero
(slang for "naval officers") would man and was there not because I had any
special skills but because the watch was very boring. No one thought we would
ever fire a missile at anyone, so the duty seemed insignificant. The watch was
called "Weapons Liaison Officer" (WLO). It involved watching a radar screen on
a piece of equipment, which, if I remember correctly, was called a SPA-25.
Basically it was a Position Planning Indicator (PPI) yellow phosphor monitor
that displayed radar inputs (range and bearing to a target) from the ship’s air
and surface radars. Everything was called a "target". The fire control motto
was "If it flies, it dies!" and they meant it. My job was basically to request
permission from the CIC watch Officer to assign the Fire Control Radar to track
unknown and hostile targets and, possibly, to fire a TALOS long range missile
at a target. If permission was granted I would relay the range and bearing to
the guys who manned the AN/SPG-49 Tracking/Acquisition Radars. This is the only
way they could know where a target was, since their radar was not search radar
but track radar. It is sort of like looking through a telescope in a known
direction and altitude for a moving target.
On the day in question, "The Battle of Dong Hoi", I remember
that it was near the end of my four-hour watch. We had a real a-hole of a CIC
watch officer, whom I will not name out of respect for his rank, but will refer
to as Lieutenant Commander SOB. There was a large back-lit plexiglas plotting
board in the middle of CIC that a guy in back of it would write on in reverse
with a yellow grease pencil so everyone in front could see the lettering as
forward. The fellow writing on the display board that day put up two hostile
tracks, each designated by a half-diamond pointing up with a track number
written next to it. Upside down it would be a submarine plot and, as a diamond,
it would show a surface target plot. There are two other possible designations
for a plot: friendly is a half-moon and unknown is a half-rectangle. All plots
point up for an air target and down for a submarine. A full circle or square
could also designate a surface target. These plots are based on what is called
IFF (Identify Friend or Foe), an encrypted signal that is received when a
target is interrogated. An analogy would be like sending out a request for a
webpage and then getting one in return. If there is no IFF signal received upon
interrogation, the target is identified at first as unknown. If the target is
on a threat axis (incoming at a high rate of speed) it will be identified as
hostile. That day, I also saw on the PPI display two incoming air tracks that
corresponded to the plots on the plexiglas board. I asked the CIC Watch officer
for permission to track the two targets that were some distance away. I
remember clearly that Lieutenant Commander SOB chewed my ass out and reminded
me that one of our ships had a anti radiation missile fired at it by one of our
own aircraft for doing what I was asking permission to do. Anyway I assumed as
a Lieutenant Commander he knew what was going on. Shortly after the two tracks
appeared they were gone.
The only thing I was looking forward to was getting off watch
and getting some bunk time. A few minutes later my relief showed up and I
proceeded back to the FOX Division berthing compartment. I was only half-way
back to the berthing compartment (CIC is near the bow of the ship and my
berthing compartment was near the aft of the ship) when I heard a loud bang and
the ship took a slight roll. The ship’s announcement system (1-MC) blared: "MiG
Alert." We were already at a modified General Quarters so that was the only
thing announced and was the only indication that we were under attack. Damage
control parties appeared wearing red helmets and running with concerned looks
down ladders into the lower compartments.
It was some time before we found out what happened. Later, I
remember going topside and seeing the USS Higbee about 5 miles away smoking and
burning. Our ship’s helicopter was heading to the Higbee. There were rumors
that the onboard Marines, who were manning the .50 caliber machine guns
topside, had been ordered to take cover as the MIG-17 flew over. Some of the
people topside claimed they could see the red star on the aircraft and clearly
see the pilot. As this is second-hand information I do not know the real facts
of what happened outside the skin of the ship. Another second-hand story was
from the guy who relived me in CIC. He claimed that when the MiG Alert
announcement was heard in CID, Lieutenant Commander SOB starting shouting to
lock-on and track, and, when a range and bearing was requested, he would shout
"000 , 360". My relief claimed that Lieutenant Commander SOB started yanking
headphones off those around him and was pulling at his hair and acting crazy.
He told me that the deranged officer had to be subdued and taken away. I
believed that story, because, after that day, I never saw Lieutenant Commander
SOB again.
Anyway that is my story of the incident aboard the USS Oklahoma
City in the Tonkin Gulf on April 19 1972, and I’m sticking to it! I’m sure
others who were aboard that day would have a completely different version. I
always wondered why I was never questioned about what I had seen in CIC that
day. After it was over we just went about our business as if nothing had
happened. We heard rumors that the USS Sterett fired 5 missiles that day and
that one destroyed the MIG and another had hit what was left of it. We also
heard the Captain of the USS Sterett was reprimanded for firing missiles
without permission from the Flag Ship. Other than being a bit shook that an
enemy that had actually tried to kill us, it was just another day on the gun
line off Vietnam.
As far as the version you have, there is no way the AN/SPG-49
fire control radar could have been covertly tracking the two MiGs in question.
First of all, only CIC was aware that there were any targets of interest in the
area. When the fire control radars were searching or tracking they were very
noisy. Because they are the size of a large cement truck they sounded like a
bull elephant when the hydraulics moved them around. Last, but not least of
all, CIC had indicators and a TV display that showed when one of the radars was
"locked on and tracking". I was there and none of that happened.
Shipmate "Fair Winds and Following Seas".
The Armor Pages
By Phil Gardocki
The Panzerkampfwagon III
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Panzer III Ausf L
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As photographed by the author.
Used with permission from the US Army Ordnance Museum.
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The Panzer III gets the short shrift with war gamers. If a
player gets a choice of tanks, the Panzer III will almost never be among them.
However, it was primarily with this tank that the Germans conquered most of
Europe, and took them to their high watermark at Stalingrad and El Aleman. The
Panzer IV was intended to spearpoint formations and remove obstacles,
while the Panzer III was to engage enemy armor. Early versions weighed 19 tons
actually outweighing their contemporary Panzer IV's.
The early Panzer III's were armored with 2 cm of armor and
armed with a 3.7 cm/L45 gun. This gun was a compromise, as when the tank was
being designed, the 5 cm gun anti tank gun had not yet been developed. The
3.7cm could penetrate 5 cm of armor at 500 meters. But with foresight,
the tank chassis was designed wide enough to support a large enough turret ring
to handle a 5 cm gun.
Mid range variants, starting with model ‘H’, weighed 20 tons,
had 5 cm of frontal armor and was armed with a 5 cm/L42 gun, which could
penetrate 7 cm of armor at 500 meters.
The final models, starting with ‘M’, weighed 23 tons, and were
armored with 7 cm of armor and had a 5 cm/L60 gun, which could penetrate 7.7 cm
of armor at 500 meters. This variant, was almost an equal to the T-34 it was
pitted against, but the hull was almost at its limit, and any further upgrades
would not be able to keep up with the Soviet upgrades to their equipment. So
the Panzer III ceased production in 1943.
Some of the Panzer III's in service were relegated to recon
units, while most of the Panzer III’s were converted to other vehicles,
including a 7.5 cm L24 infantry support variant, and a flame throwing model.
The chassis continued in production and were used to make the
Sturmgeschutz-III.
| Specification |
Specification |
| Gun |
3.7cm L46 |
Gun |
5cm L42 /L60 |
| Weight |
17-20tonnes |
Weight |
23 tonnes |
| Max Hull Armor |
2-6 cm |
Max Hull Armor |
7 cm |
| Max Turret Armor |
3 cm |
Max Turret Armor |
5 cm |
| Engine Size |
12 liter |
Engine Size |
12 liter |
| Fuel |
Gasoline |
Fuel |
Gasoline |
| Horsepower |
230hp-320hp |
Horsepower |
320hp |
| Top Speed |
32-40kph |
Top Speed |
40 |
| Crew |
5 |
Crew |
5 |
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Armed with the 5cm L60 gun.
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As photographed by the author.
Used with permission from the US Army Ordnance Museum.
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Sturmgeschutz III
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Armed with the short barreled 7.5cm L24 gun.
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As photographed by the author.
Used with permission from the US Army Ordnance Museum.
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